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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/so-you-wanna-help-mozilla-316/comment-page-1/#comment-6234</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rupesh

You can basically always find me in #webdev on irc.mozilla.org. I&#039;m jsocol there.

We don&#039;t, as far as I know, have any web projects in Java. (We have a Live Chat component of Support.Mozilla.com [SUMO] that&#039;s built in Java. Ping me in IRC and I can point you at bug lists and the lead dev on it.) But that doesn&#039;t mean you need to be a PHP expert, either!

We do a lot of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript work, which requires little-to-no PHP knowledge. On SUMO, we&#039;ve started marking certain bugs as good places to start. If you&#039;re more interested in learning Python, Socorro (our Crash Reporter) is a Python app, and Addons (AMO) is moving to it.

Find me on IRC and we can talk more!</description>
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<p>You can basically always find me in #webdev on irc.mozilla.org. I&#8217;m jsocol there.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t, as far as I know, have any web projects in Java. (We have a Live Chat component of Support.Mozilla.com [SUMO] that&#8217;s built in Java. Ping me in IRC and I can point you at bug lists and the lead dev on it.) But that doesn&#8217;t mean you need to be a PHP expert, either!</p>
<p>We do a lot of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript work, which requires little-to-no PHP knowledge. On SUMO, we&#8217;ve started marking certain bugs as good places to start. If you&#8217;re more interested in learning Python, Socorro (our Crash Reporter) is a Python app, and Addons (AMO) is moving to it.</p>
<p>Find me on IRC and we can talk more!</p>
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		<title>By: Rupesh Saxena</title>
		<link>http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/so-you-wanna-help-mozilla-316/comment-page-1/#comment-6231</link>
		<dc:creator>Rupesh Saxena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James Socol 
Hi,
I got your email for getting started with Mozilla , I appreciate that you gave me an opportunity to work with you. As I mentioned about my skills regarding the web development , is it necessary to be expertize programmer PHP , as I am fluent with Java.
Secondly, where I can find you to talk personally (splly on IRC)
Thanks
Rupesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James Socol<br />
Hi,<br />
I got your email for getting started with Mozilla , I appreciate that you gave me an opportunity to work with you. As I mentioned about my skills regarding the web development , is it necessary to be expertize programmer PHP , as I am fluent with Java.<br />
Secondly, where I can find you to talk personally (splly on IRC)<br />
Thanks<br />
Rupesh</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/so-you-wanna-help-mozilla-316/comment-page-1/#comment-6101</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lars,

The Mozilla &lt;a href=&quot;http://hacks.mozilla.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hacks&lt;/a&gt; blog and the Mozilla Developer Network are working to do just that. I&#039;m sure they&#039;d appreciate help, too!

I think it&#039;s also important that we make more noise about features that are safe to use in all browsers. Even as a Mozillian, I don&#039;t want to segregate the internet, or put &quot;best viewed in&quot; back on my web sites. There&#039;s been a lot of progress among all the major browsers, and we should be vocal about what&#039;s really ready for widespread use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lars,</p>
<p>The Mozilla <a href="http://hacks.mozilla.org/" rel="nofollow">Hacks</a> blog and the Mozilla Developer Network are working to do just that. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d appreciate help, too!</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s also important that we make more noise about features that are safe to use in all browsers. Even as a Mozillian, I don&#8217;t want to segregate the internet, or put &#8220;best viewed in&#8221; back on my web sites. There&#8217;s been a lot of progress among all the major browsers, and we should be vocal about what&#8217;s really ready for widespread use.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Gunther</title>
		<link>http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/so-you-wanna-help-mozilla-316/comment-page-1/#comment-6092</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that its important to push Mozilla technology breakthroughs to the web design community. E.g. WOFF and SVG effects on non SVG-content*.

There is a ton of articles on Webkit specific stuff, since the design community is very Apple-centric. E.g: http://24ways.org/2009/

Another example would be Modernizr, which in its current implementation is rather Webkit biased. I know they are working on it and we should see some improvements in coming versions, but it would be great if anyone could give them a helping hand on issues like:

1. How to detect WOFF support programmatically, without causing HTTP requests.

2. How to programmatically detect support for SVG effects. (And SVG!)

* https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Applying_SVG_effects_to_HTML_content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that its important to push Mozilla technology breakthroughs to the web design community. E.g. WOFF and SVG effects on non SVG-content*.</p>
<p>There is a ton of articles on Webkit specific stuff, since the design community is very Apple-centric. E.g: <a href="http://24ways.org/2009/" rel="nofollow">http://24ways.org/2009/</a></p>
<p>Another example would be Modernizr, which in its current implementation is rather Webkit biased. I know they are working on it and we should see some improvements in coming versions, but it would be great if anyone could give them a helping hand on issues like:</p>
<p>1. How to detect WOFF support programmatically, without causing HTTP requests.</p>
<p>2. How to programmatically detect support for SVG effects. (And SVG!)</p>
<p>* <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Applying_SVG_effects_to_HTML_content" rel="nofollow">https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Applying_SVG_effects_to_HTML_content</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken Saunders</title>
		<link>http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/so-you-wanna-help-mozilla-316/comment-page-1/#comment-5952</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your &quot;life of a bug&quot; piece. It&#039;s very informative.
I&#039;d like to see Pixar make a movie from it. :)

There&#039;s some other great ways to get involved and help out Mozilla listed here.
http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your &#8220;life of a bug&#8221; piece. It&#8217;s very informative.<br />
I&#8217;d like to see Pixar make a movie from it. <img src='http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There&#8217;s some other great ways to get involved and help out Mozilla listed here.<br />
<a href="http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: Absolutely right. No one needs to work in a vacuum.

@Jeff: But Vikings are loud, boorish, drunken... hmm, you may have a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: Absolutely right. No one needs to work in a vacuum.</p>
<p>@Jeff: But Vikings are loud, boorish, drunken&#8230; hmm, you may have a point.</p>
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		<title>By: So You Wanna Help Mozilla? &#124; Coffee on the Keyboard Mozilla Fennec</title>
		<link>http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/so-you-wanna-help-mozilla-316/comment-page-1/#comment-5939</link>
		<dc:creator>So You Wanna Help Mozilla? &#124; Coffee on the Keyboard Mozilla Fennec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the original post:  So You Wanna Help Mozilla? &#124; Coffee on the Keyboard          By admin &#124; category: mozilla &#124; tags: developer-survey, fellow-web, mozilla, our-web &#124;    [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the original post:  So You Wanna Help Mozilla? | Coffee on the Keyboard          By admin | category: mozilla | tags: developer-survey, fellow-web, mozilla, our-web |    [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Balogh</title>
		<link>http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/so-you-wanna-help-mozilla-316/comment-page-1/#comment-5936</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Balogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, I&#039;d prefer that we stop all this ninja stuff.  I&#039;d rather hang out with vikings than ninjas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, I&#8217;d prefer that we stop all this ninja stuff.  I&#8217;d rather hang out with vikings than ninjas.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to add one thing in relation to:
&quot;a developer will “take” the bug, accepting responsibility for fixing it&quot;
Don&#039;t worry, taking a bug does not imply you have to figure it all out by yourself. I&#039;m sure all of us webdevs would be more than happy to help you along, especially as you&#039;re starting out. As James is illustrating, we are excited to receive your help and will certainly assist you along the way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to add one thing in relation to:<br />
&#8220;a developer will “take” the bug, accepting responsibility for fixing it&#8221;<br />
Don&#8217;t worry, taking a bug does not imply you have to figure it all out by yourself. I&#8217;m sure all of us webdevs would be more than happy to help you along, especially as you&#8217;re starting out. As James is illustrating, we are excited to receive your help and will certainly assist you along the way!</p>
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